Frage: thaler retirement?

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Frage: thaler retirement?

Beitragvon villa66 » Mi 18.10.17 05:11

Can anyone please help me resolve the following conflict?

P.S. I’ve also read that thalers were demonetized not in 1908, but on October 1, 1907. Perhaps that was when they began being withdrawn?

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Re: Frage: thaler retirement?

Beitragvon Mynter » Mi 18.10.17 22:43

Laut der Nummer 2 /1908 der Zeitschrift" Die deutschen Reichsmünzen " des Münzenhändlers, Numismatikers und Münzlobbyistent Alexander Kummer begann der Einzug der Thaler mit der Verordnung vom 1. 10.1907. Für den Umtausch an allen öffentlichen Kassen war eine Frist bis zum 30.09.1908 gesetzt.
Am 26.06.1908 beschloss der Bundesrat die Einführung des Dreimarkstückes. Die erste Ausgabe der neuen Dreimarkstücke erfolgte am 21.10.1908 mit den Stücken preussischen Gepräges, die übrigen Bundesstaaten folgten später, da es Lieferschwierigkeiten gab. Berlin schaffte es nicht, den übrigen Prägeanstalten die notwendigen Urmatritzen zügig genug zur Verfügung zu stellen.
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Re: Frage: thaler retirement?

Beitragvon Mynter » Mi 18.10.17 22:43

If you look carefully at the eagles tail on the 3- mark you will notice that it is slightly different from the 2- and 5- mark.
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Re: Frage: thaler retirement?

Beitragvon villa66 » Do 19.10.17 06:27

Got it! Danke, Mynter. And for the fun tomorrow evening too, when I'll be looking at Imperial tail-feathers.

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Re: Frage: thaler retirement?

Beitragvon Mynter » So 22.10.17 17:45

villa66 hat geschrieben:Got it! Danke, Mynter. And for the fun tomorrow evening too, when I'll be looking at Imperial tail-feathers.

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Notice also the slightly different R in REICH and MARK. The masterdies for the 3-mark must have been made totaly new, not simply reduced from the modell used in 1890/91.
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Re: Frage: thaler retirement?

Beitragvon villa66 » Mo 23.10.17 09:13

Mynter hat geschrieben:...The masterdies for the 3-mark must have been made totaly new, not simply reduced from the modell used in 1890/91.


We've had unexpected (and thorough-going!) grandchild-duty since late last week--no long looks at Imperial silver for me yet (too risky).

But I'd been thinking about it a little and had decided it might be something like the 1921 Morgan. So it really tickled me to read your idea about a new master tool for the 3-mark.

(For anyone interested--and I guess maybe here is an especially good place to find some interest, since so much of the story of the American silver dollar is also the story of German silver coinage...Anyway, beginning in 1873, the U.S. coined silver dollars in terrific numbers until 1904. Striking of the coin then stopped completely. The vaults of the Treasury Department were full of many, many tens of millions of brand-new Morgans, and older dollars too, sitting unwanted and unused except for some employed as backing for paper money. By 1910, the folks at the Mint were certain no more Morgan dollars would ever be needed, so they destroyed the tools used to make them. Then, of course, came the wartime need by the British for silver for India, the Pittman Act of 1918, and the melting of some 270 million silver dollars. After the war they were replaced, but since it took some time to get the Peace dollar going, it was decided to begin, but using the old Morgan design, for which the Mint already had Congressional approval. So the Mint had to make new tools from scratch, and the Morgans of 1921 are quietly--but unmistakably--different from the Morgans of 1878-1904.)

I'm enjoying the grand-kids...but soon, I hope....

Thanks for the additional information.

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