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Hallo zusammen,

ich bin neu hier und hoffe die richtige Stelle für meine Frage gefunden zu haben.

Ich habe einen schönen Barber Half Dollar erworben und wundere mich über das geringe Gewicht. Klar, er war länger im Umlauf und hat somit Abrieb, aber sind 12,12g statt 12,50g realistisch oder ist es eine Fälschung?

Durchmesser mit uraltem mechanischem Handschieber gemessen ca. 30,2mm statt 30,6mm, Dicke korrekt bei ca. 1,8mm.

Vielen Dank an alle.

Hallo,
ich denke, es kommen die Toleranz bei der Prägung, eine Ungenauigkeit der Waage und der Verschleiss im Umlauf zusammen.
Rein von den Bilden würde ich eine Fälschung ausschliessen und solang es nicht gerade ein extrem seltener Jahrgang ist, würde ich mir keine Sorgen machen.

Schöne Grüße,
MR

Super, vielen Dank!
Wobei das tatsächliche Gewicht zu +/- 10mg passen sollte

Hab noch eine Markierung gefunden, die mich stutzig macht. Ich hoffe das ist kein "R".

eher das B als Signatur des Herrn Barber, vgl.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barber_co ... bverse.jpg

MR

hab's gerade auch herausgefunden

A nice second-year coin from the Denver mint. (To my eye it looks quite authentic.) In the U.S. coin-hobby this coin is likely a VG+ = VG10.

No real damage, just honest wear. (The Barber coins worked like dogs--they went into circulation and stayed there until the late-'40s or early-'50s.) Good color, too: grey, grey and grey. I like it!

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villa66 hat geschrieben:To my eye it looks quite authentic.

Great, thanks, makes me happy. Danke.

villa66 hat geschrieben:In the U.S. coin-hobby this coin is likely a VG+ = VG10.

Oops, my dealer sold it as VF ... in Deutschland SS.

Well, it is true that your 1907d Barber half is much better than a lot of its contemporaries, so maybe it’s natural to exaggerate some.

But just to help, next time, maybe I could offer a couple of practical tips about the way the American coin-hobby grades Barber halves (and quarters, and dimes).

LIBERTY on the portrait’s headband is the key. On most survivors, LIBERTY is completely or almost completely obliterated. These coins grade G or less.

To reach the grade of VG, at least 3 letters of the motto must be visible—usually LI Y. (And generally speaking, at least two full letters and two half-letters will also do for VG.)

To reach F, all letters of LIBERTY must be clearly visible. The BER can be weak, but must be clearly visible.

To reach VF, all letters of LIBERTY must be strongly visible.

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It’s an effective way to classify these coins, but like most grading conventions that rely heavily on some small part of coin rather than its entirety, some of the results can be…less than satisfying.

As presented in your photos, your 1907d is a nice VG or a VG+ (all day, every day—3 or 3.5 letters of LIBERTY visible).

But here is a 1909o that goes F (no doubt about all of LIBERTY being visible):

http://www.numismatikforum.de/viewtopic ... 25&t=52579

The thing is, even ignoring its superior color, I think your VG+ 1907d is a better coin than this F 1909o (which in its entirety I personally regard as a VG.)

I think maybe I have a VF. I’ll look, and if I do I’ll try to post it for comparison.

v.

villa66 hat geschrieben:Well, it is true that your 1907d Barber half is much better than a lot of its contemporaries, so maybe it’s natural to exaggerate some.

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I think maybe I have a VF. I’ll look, and if I do I’ll try to post it for comparison.

v.

Wow, learned a lot today. Thanks a lot.

I'm sorry this has taken so long. Seems to be way it is these days....

Here, as promised--well, maybe not quite--is a Barber half that I carry in my collection as a F+ = F15, although some days I would call it a VF = VF20 (that barely makes the grade).

v.