1818 Braunschweig - Wolfenbuttel 24 Mariengroschen

[Mark240590]

Hallo, Ich bin seit einiger Zeit Mitglied und mein armer Deutscher begrenzt meine Abilkität zum posten, ich muss google Translate benutzen. Ich habe vor kurzem dieses 1818 24 Mariengroschen aus Braunschweig-Wolfenbüttel gekauft. Ich bin besorgt, dass es nicht klingelt wie meine 1817 Kopie. es gibt auch einige geringfügige Abweichungen im Design (die Krone ist das Hauptanliegen) könnte mir jemand helfen, die Echtheit zu identifizieren? ive gewogen, mit Seltenerdmagneten überprüft und den Spezifischen Schwerkrafttest durchgeführt und alle zeigen auf echt, aber ich kann nicht umhin, besorgt zu sein. die besten Wünsche, Kennzeichen

Incase google translate is poor and You can read in English:

hello,

i have been a member for a while and my poor German limits my abilkity to post, i have to use google Translate.

i have recently purchased this 1818 24 Mariengroschen from Brunswick- Wolfenbuttel. i am concerned that it does not ping like my 1817 copy. there are also some slight variations with design (the crown being the main concern)

could anyone help me identify the authenticity ? ive weighed, measured checked with rare earth magnets and done the Specific Gravity test and all point to genuine but i cannot help but be concerned.


Ping/ Ring test. You can hear the difference.
https://youtu.be/dPJzJtlmbwU

[KarlAntonMartini]

Mark, we would appreciate if you could put the pictures directly in this homepage (thats not google-translated but my own bad english, sorry). Best regards, KarlAntonMartini

[Mark240590]

Mark, we would appreciate if you could put the pictures directly in this homepage (thats not google-translated but my own bad english, sorry). Best regards, KarlAntonMartini

Hi,

EDIT:

I’ve managed it !:D

[KarlAntonMartini]

Arnold, Küthmann, Steinhilber: Grosser Deutscher Münzkatalog has number 27 for these coins. In 1817 the mintage was 18.900 and in 1818 16.500. The weight of the coins should be 13,083 g (993/1000 AG). The different sound is probably caused by a small fault in the interior of the blank. - I use for my collection also the catalogue of R.B. Smith, The Anglo-Hanoverian Coinage, but there is no further information available. - The shield sides of both of your coins seem to be made of the same die, compare the first G of George. The rear sides show differences in the position of the inscription, the number 4 shows to V of TVTOR or between T and V. Best regards, KarlAntonMartini

[Mark240590]

Arnold, Küthmann, Steinhilber: Grosser Deutscher Münzkatalog has number 27 for these coins. In 1817 the mintage was 18.900 and in 1818 16.500. The weight of the coins should be 13,083 g (993/1000 AG). The different sound is probably caused by a small fault in the interior of the blank. - I use for my collection also the catalogue of R.B. Smith, The Anglo-Hanoverian Coinage, but there is no further information available. - The shield sides of both of your coins seem to be made of the same die, compare the first G of George. The rear sides show differences in the position of the inscription, the number 4 shows to V of TVTOR or between T and V. Best regards, KarlAntonMartini

Thanks very much. I wasn’t aware of a catalogue for Anglo hannoverian coins ! I’ve just been using the British Colonial coins catalogue which includes them. The biggest difference between them both I found was 1817 has an extra jewel on the bottom of the crown.

I suppose the book you quote is not in English ?

Thanks !

[KarlAntonMartini]

British Colonial Coins? Is that the book of 1986 or is there a new edition? - The Arnold et. al. catalogue is in German, a standard work for german coins of the 19 th and 20 th century. Here the latest edition: https://www.amazon.de/Gro%C3%9Fer-deuts ... n+Hannover

For Hannover the standard catalogue would be the Welter. But this book "Die Münzen der Welfen" is out of print for years.

Some additional information may be found here: http://www.numismatikforum.de/viewtopic ... 51&t=52767

Best regards, KarlAntonMartini

[Mark240590]

Thanks again ! Yes the book is by Jerome remick. Very old but to be honest British colonials I collect are all in this book anyway