Köln pfennig?

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Good day!
Please help me with identification of this pfennig, Köln?

Thank you!

[QVINTVS]

Hallo,
it is not a pfennig from the bishop. It looks like a prince seculer (Weltlicher), so it ist not from Köln, but from this "Währungskreis". (Hätte ich in Englisch nur besser aufgepasst und mehr gelernt!)

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Thank you!
And who exactly does not know? And it is impossible to identificate by catalogs?

Best regards

[QVINTVS]

It is not my special field. There are many possible rulers in the "Währungskreis des Kölner Pfennigs".

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Thanks for the info!

[pinpoint]

In my opinion :

Pfennig , Engelbert I , 1249 - 1277 , Grafschaft Mark , Hamm ?
Foto : variant

Regards , Pinpoint

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Thank you!

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I found this :
https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=993&lot=262

[Zwerg]

Possible - but one has to check the inscriptions of your original coin and check with the printed literature (unfortunately not in my library)
Perhaps Udo Gans from WAG may give you an answer - he is best for Arnsberg.

Grüße
Klaus

[captain-freddy]

The coin from pinpoint holds in the left a gotic A .
It shows a count or another secular aristocratic person.
The backside is like a coin from Köln, Bishop Engelbert I., 1216 - 1225.
Regarding the A in the left hand of a bishop, read Hävernick: 612, 624, 648, 663,668.
The count on the coin from trump holds in the left hand half an anchor cross. (This is normally the sign of the counts of Pyrmont.)
But one can read more or less clear:
Front: NVSGOT + FRI'(DOM) - something like that - DOMNVS or DOMINVS GOTFRI' , is in German "Edler Herr Gottfried".
Back: ARNESBERICH - can't read the rest. It is not a clear CIVITAS.
The backside is similar to the coin of pinpoint.
The coin is most probably minted under Gottfried II of Arnsberg
* 1157 - + 1235, he was ruler of Arnsberg from 1185 - 1235. This tallies with the Engelbert I backside.
Both are very rare!
Greetings
Fred

[captain-freddy]

In Pyrmont we have some rulers named GODESCALCVS - Gottschalk in German.
But anyhow ARNESBERICH is to my opinion clearly readable.
Kind regards
Fred

[captain-freddy]

Lot 262 WAG is very similar to yours!
Fred

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Thank you for such a good answer!

[Zwerg]

As to printed literature:
Udo Gans, Münzen der Grafen von Arnsberg, in: Münstersche Numismatische Zeitung, April 1983

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Thank you!