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Carausius Antoninian - clasped hands? unbekannt unknown very rare

chevalier hat geschrieben: ↑

Mo 15.08.22 20:29

Antike Imitationen spätrömischer Münzen: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=39657&p=451776&hili ... en#p451776
In einer Fußnote ist zu lesen: "Many of these coins are early and of poor workmanship, and the legend is combined with inconsistent types. e.g. Aequitas, Fortuna, Salus etc. There are many instances of blundered legends."

kc hat geschrieben: ↑

Di 16.08.22 21:37

Danke für die Nachrichten Bin noch nicht dazu gekommen alles zu studieren, werde deinen Hinweisen nachgehen Ich werde mal die Experten dieses Gebiets kontaktieren. Melde mich wieder, sobald ich nähere Infos habe.

VG
kc

Richard Reece (Roman archaeologist and numismatist) hat geschrieben:The sequence of coins produced in Britain seems to extend directly from the production of copies of radiate coins minted in Gaul to the early coinage of Carausius, though some authorities would prefer to think of a break between the end of barbarous copies and the first coins of Carausius in 286-7. A problem here is whether to call irregular looking coins that are obviously related to Carausius by portrait and legend barbarous radiates or not. The general convention is to call these uncertain coins 'irregular issues of Carausius' and to assume that they belong early in the reign. These conventions fit well with the evidence for the coinage of Carausius does improve demonstrably during the reign and there are very few 'irregular coins' of Allectus (293-296). My personal preference is to see the barbarous radiates merging into the early coinage of Carausius, so that official and full standard coins of Carausius when they develop kill the practice of strikingirregular copies. If this sequence is correct then barbarous radiates are to be dated between the last issues of the Gallic Empire in 272-4 and the first regular issues of Carausius in 286-7, and hence theconventional dating '270-290'.

Adrian Marsden hat geschrieben:It is unlikely that Carausius – or his lieutenants – could afford to be too choosy in terms of which engravers they drafted for service into their new mints and the resulting mixture of styles confirms this. Quite frequently, on his early coins, a well-engraved poor style – were simply overstruck on coins of Gallienus, Claudius II or the Gallic emperors Victorinus and Tetricus I and II (figures 4 and 5). These may represent his new mint staff using whatever source of blanks came to hand or they might be the products of fraudulent engravers, overstriking old, obsolete coin with the head of the new ruler.
Where were these mints based? As we have seen, much of Carausius’ earliest coinage, struck on flans of a smallish module, does not carry mintmarks. The whole of this earliest series suggests a haphazard operation and it may be that some of these coins were struck at temporary mints, set up to furnish the needs of local military units at the outset of the reign.

It's not in the current volume of RIC, but is a known type and so will be in the next one. There is a reverse die duplicate example in the Ashmolean collection in Oxford, supposedly from the Colchester hoard but not noted in the original publication of the find in 1930.

The reverse is clasped hands and may just be a blundered, irregular coin. I have seen discussions where the reverse is interpreted as VXI AV (Vxor Avg) and pertaining to the wife of Carausius

kc hat geschrieben: ↑

Mi 17.08.22 11:41

The reverse is clasped hands and may just be a blundered, irregular coin. I have seen discussions where the reverse is interpreted as VXI AV (Vxor Avg) and pertaining to the wife of Carausius

Homer J. Simpson hat geschrieben: ↑

Mi 17.08.22 12:15

kc hat geschrieben: ↑

Mi 17.08.22 11:41

The reverse is clasped hands and may just be a blundered, irregular coin. I have seen discussions where the reverse is interpreted as VXI AV (Vxor Avg) and pertaining to the wife of Carausius

Das erinnert mich sehr an die Frau von Pontius Pilatus.

Homer

richard55-47 hat geschrieben: ↑

So 28.08.22 18:51

Schade, dass die Legenden teilweise abgeschliffen sind.