Determination help - Italian coin

[pinpoint]

Friendly ask for help to determinate this Italian coin .

Silver , diam. 22 mm , Antonio Maria Tizzone ( 1598-1641).

Front : ANT MAR TIT BL COM DEC VIC IMPE
Back : LVX MEA LVCEM AB ALLA NON MVTVAT

Place of minting : Desana ???

All our experts on our forum can't exact find this coin ?
Maybe we have succes in Germany !!

Thanks and greetings from Holland , Pinpoint

[klaupo]

The Tizzoni are known to have struck Batzen-type coinage. Maybe an unpublished type?

The obverse legend (following Rentzmann, Numismatisches Legenden-Lexikon) is to be read:

ANTonius MARia TITio BLAn COMes DECiae VICarius IMperii PErpetuus

The only sources in the web dealing with coins from the Tizzoni, struck in Dezana, are written in French and German:

http://www.archive.org/stream/revuebelg ... t_djvu.txt

http://www.archive.org/stream/numismati ... t_djvu.txt

Use for your search on these pages the word "Dezana"

The mint, however, eventually seems to be Dezana.

Regards klaupo

[Afrasi]

Hello!

I think this was "golden" coin of Desana before, a Fiorino, Type II, which should have 3.3 g gold and would be RRRRR.
Source: rhinocoins.com

Afrasi

[Zwerg]

As I am quite sure, you will find nothing more in the internet, you should consult printed literature:

Gamberini di Scarfea, C.:Les imitazioni e les contraffazioni monetarie nel mondo.

I don't have it at hand, otherwise I would have looked.

If you search google with

"ANT MAR TIT"

you will find appropriate links to Desana-coins in coinarchives

Kind regards

Zwerg

[pinpoint]

Vielen Dank ,

Wir hatten Selber schonn viel info gefunden , nur dass letzte Stück hat noch gefehlt . Genau um welche Münze es sich hier handelt.
Wir sind wieder ein Stück weiter !!

Danke !! und Frohes neues Jahr .

Greetz from Holland , Pinpoint