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20 Francs 1910 Original aus der Zeit oder Nachprägung aus den 50ern?

Verfasst: Di 05.05.26 18:08
von sebastien.paulini
Hallo zusammen,
Ich habe mal eine Frage bzgl. dieser Münze. Wie man erkennen kann, ob es sich hier um eine Münze von 1910 handelt oder ob diese eine Nachprägung ist? Da die Datei zu groß ist, habe ich den Link angefügt:)
Die Seite mit der Marianne drauf hat noch leichten Prägeglanz, der Hahn weniger.
https://www.ma-shops.de/koelnermuenzkab ... ?id=110605
Viele Grüße
Sébastien

Re: 20 Francs 1910 Original aus der Zeit oder Nachprägung aus den 50ern?

Verfasst: Di 05.05.26 18:19
von Zwerg
Aus "Numista"
https://en.numista.com/2230
Preislich spielt das keine Rolle
The type is apparently very easy to complete in FDC, but those found are virtually all late official reprints. 202,359 examples were minted in 1921 in the 1914 year. 37,483,500 examples of the 20-franc gold rooster coin have also been officially reprinted since the gold market reopened in 1948 (precisely between 1951 and 1960 inclusive), dated from 1907 to 1914, to replenish stocks of gold remelted or lost during the two World Wars.

These remelts used "antique instruments", i.e. original dies. With a little practice, they can be easily distinguished: the gold of the refrappes is very red (presence of a higher proportion of copper in the alloy), their striking quality is better, one senses more powerful presses, and the polishing of the corners is practically invisible.

The problem of identification arises above all for perfect specimens, as refrappes by definition have not circulated. Original strikes can be identified by their more yellow gold, their "standard" minting quality, often with velvet, and their corner polishing streaks, visible with a magnifying glass and in the axis of the coin. The easiest way is to compare with 1899/1906 examples, which cannot be refrappes.
Grüße
Klaus

Re: 20 Francs 1910 Original aus der Zeit oder Nachprägung aus den 50ern?

Verfasst: Di 05.05.26 18:22
von Lackland
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Re: 20 Francs 1910 Original aus der Zeit oder Nachprägung aus den 50ern?

Verfasst: Di 05.05.26 19:02
von sebastien.paulini
Zwerg hat geschrieben:
Di 05.05.26 18:19
Aus "Numista"
https://en.numista.com/2230
Preislich spielt das keine Rolle
The type is apparently very easy to complete in FDC, but those found are virtually all late official reprints. 202,359 examples were minted in 1921 in the 1914 year. 37,483,500 examples of the 20-franc gold rooster coin have also been officially reprinted since the gold market reopened in 1948 (precisely between 1951 and 1960 inclusive), dated from 1907 to 1914, to replenish stocks of gold remelted or lost during the two World Wars.

These remelts used "antique instruments", i.e. original dies. With a little practice, they can be easily distinguished: the gold of the refrappes is very red (presence of a higher proportion of copper in the alloy), their striking quality is better, one senses more powerful presses, and the polishing of the corners is practically invisible.

The problem of identification arises above all for perfect specimens, as refrappes by definition have not circulated. Original strikes can be identified by their more yellow gold, their "standard" minting quality, often with velvet, and their corner polishing streaks, visible with a magnifying glass and in the axis of the coin. The easiest way is to compare with 1899/1906 examples, which cannot be refrappes.
Grüße
Klaus
Hallo Klaus,
Vielen Dank für die Auskunft! Also beim Vergleich mit dieser Münze, ist es wahrscheinlich doch eine Nachprägung von der Farbe..
https://www.ma-shops.de/merson/item.php?id=28715
Grüße
Sébastien