1926 Peace dollar: "GOD"

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1926 Peace dollar: "GOD"

Beitrag von villa66 » Sa 07.03.20 08:10

I lucked into a decent 1921 Peace dollar and have been playing with it for two weeks solid. (The ;21 Peace is one of the most interesting coins in the entire American series) Along the way I learned something about the Peace dollars of 1926 that I cannot remember having read before—the word GOD in the motto IN GOD WE TRUST had been recut and emphasized.

I found that difficult to believe, but the examples sitting in my own collection (from all three mints) seem to confirm it, with the word GOD returning to its usual appearance the next year, in 1927.

Sorry about the darkness of the images…'

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Re: 1926 Peace dollar: "GOD"

Beitrag von klaupo » Sa 07.03.20 10:01

Sorry about the darkness of the images…'
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Looks better this way, doesn't it? :wink:

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Re: 1926 Peace dollar: "GOD"

Beitrag von villa66 » Sa 07.03.20 18:16

Much better! Danke...

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Re: 1926 Peace dollar: "GOD"

Beitrag von Mynter » Di 10.03.20 19:55

villa66 hat geschrieben:
Sa 07.03.20 08:10
I lucked into a decent 1921 Peace dollar and have been playing with it for two weeks solid. (The ;21 Peace is one of the most interesting coins in the entire American series) Along the way I learned something about the Peace dollars of 1926 that I cannot remember having read before—the word GOD in the motto IN GOD WE TRUST had been recut and emphasized.

I found that difficult to believe, but the examples sitting in my own collection (from all three mints) seem to confirm it, with the word GOD returning to its usual appearance the next year, in 1927.

Sorry about the darkness of the images…'

:) v.
Congratulations on your 1921. I am still looking for a decent piece at a resonable price . The 1921 is not too rare but allways comes with a hefty premium due to the great story linked to this one-year-type.
Accordig to the Red Book the masterdie for the 1926 was partially retouched, as the IN GOD WE TRVST was said to have become weeker during the production of the 1924s and 1925s. The engraver probably started his recutting on the word of GOD because it "was the middle word and simply convenient " ,the Red Book assumes.
Strange, how the name of God has weakend again just one year later. Either the engraver stood on Moscows payroll ( rather unlikly ) or in 1926 they did not recut the mastertools afterall ?
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Re: 1926 Peace dollar: "GOD"

Beitrag von villa66 » Fr 13.03.20 10:08

Mynter: “…this one-year-type.” It is a one-year type, and why Krause has been so backward in recognizing that in their standard catalogs is something I’ve never understood. Any idea whether Schӧn gives the 1921 a separate catalog number? (I gave Numista a quick look and didn’t see anything.)

Mynter: “Strange, how the name of God has weakened again just one year later…[perhaps]…in 1926 they did not recut the mastertools after all?” My knowledge of the process is not deep, but the way I understand it is: the master hub makes the master die, the master die makes the working hubs, and the working hubs make the working dies. If that’s correct, the 1926 master die could be recut and GOD strengthened, while leaving the master hub untouched, which would produce a 1927 master die with the original, weaker GOD of 1925 and before. Or maybe it was that Moscow thing :D .

Mynter: “The engraver probably started his recutting on the word of GOD because it ‘was the middle word and simply convenient’, the Red Book assumes.” This seems to be the consensus, but it does beg the question—so why then did the work stop? And I have also read speculation to the effect that it could have been underground comment on the 1925 Scopes trial (America’s infamous “Monkey Trial.” But heck, if the floor’s open for speculation, I’ll suggest my own—why not link it to the big and money-making religious movie Ben Hur, released at the end of 1925? (Which came on the heels of 1923’s big and money-making religious movie The Ten Commandments. Public or political comment—in that sort of cultural climate—about the Peace dollar’s blurred and indistinct GOD might have been heard at the Mint.

One last note on the motto as it was rendered on the Peace dollar, IN GOD WE TRVST. I read a very emphatic declaration by someone who insisted that the “V was for Victory.” Nope. It was just a contemporary artistic conceit. A useful reply to the “V for Victory” thesis is the Standing Liberty quarter, which first appeared in 1916, before the United States even entered the war.

Hope you find your ’21 Peace, Mynter. Just like you said, they’re a tough coin to buy right. Mine? It’s got “Saarbrücken, again” written all over it. But that I’ll have to explain at a more reasonable time of day…

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Re: 1926 Peace dollar: "GOD"

Beitrag von klaupo » Mo 16.03.20 19:00

“…this one-year-type.” It is a one-year type, and why Krause has been so backward in recognizing that in their standard catalogs is something I’ve never understood. Any idea whether Schӧn gives the 1921 a separate catalog number? (I gave Numista a quick look and didn’t see anything.)
Schön distinguishes the 1921 issue from the later issues:

S# 22.1 High relief 1921 - VF 60,- EF 120,- UNC 300,- Proof 2.400,-
S# 22.2 Flat relief 1922-1928, 1934, 1935 - VF 10,- EF 18,- UNC 35,- Proof 400,-

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Re: 1926 Peace dollar: "GOD"

Beitrag von villa66 » So 22.03.20 06:05

Danke, klaupo…and good for Schon!

While I’m at it, I’ve got one more question along the same lines. So would someone please be kind enough to say whether Schon assigns a separate catalog number to the Standing Liberty quarters of 1925-1930?

The last time I looked, Krause was still failing to do this, and it makes their standard catalog less useful to collectors who aren’t already acquainted with this series. So I wonder, does Schon break the American Standing Liberty quarters into three groups (1916-17, 1917-24, 1925-30)?

:) v.

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