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Byzanz

Verfasst: So 18.12.11 10:31
von gencho kitov
Bitte helfen Sie mir fur die Bestimmung.

Re: Byzanz

Verfasst: So 18.12.11 10:49
von Posa
Would you mind giving us more details about this coin (weight, diameter and maybe better pictures)? It´s a coin of the paleologean dynasty, but which one exactly is (for me + at the moment) impossible to say

Best regards Posa

Re: Byzanz

Verfasst: So 18.12.11 11:38
von gencho kitov
1,03 gr.
15/12 mm.

Re: Byzanz

Verfasst: So 18.12.11 13:39
von Posa
I don´t really get it, ... on the second picture I can see the Archangel St. Michael with a trefoil scepter, but the other side is still unclear. Maybe someone else...

Posa

Re: Byzanz

Verfasst: Do 22.12.11 03:02
von leodux
Hello,

in my opinion this is a trachy of the Latin Empire of Constantinople:
Latin Empire of Constantinople (1204-1261)
AE Trachy
Obverse: Nimbate bust of Christ facing
Reverse: Archangel Michael standing facing, holding trefoil scepter and globus cruciger
Sear 2036

A photo to compare:
http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=475601

Your coin is heavily clipped. Those coins often were reduced by clipping.
Here you can see another heavily clipped specimen of this type:
http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=224776

Regards,
Peter

Re: Byzanz

Verfasst: Fr 23.12.11 16:00
von Posa
Hab´ Dank, Leodux, das ist natürlich des Rätsels Lösung!

Gruß Posa

Re: Byzanz

Verfasst: Sa 24.12.11 08:45
von gencho kitov
Vielen Dank.

Re: Byzanz

Verfasst: Sa 24.12.11 10:59
von gencho kitov
Noch einige munzen fur Bestimung-bitte.

Re: Byzanz

Verfasst: Sa 24.12.11 14:33
von leodux
Hi,

first coin:
Manuel I. (1143-1180)
Billon Aspron Trachy, Constantinople
Obverse: Christ enthroned
Reverse: Manuel and the Virgin standing
Sear 1966

second coin:
I am not sure but probably it is a Bulgarian copy of a coin of Alexius III. (1195-1203)
The Bulgarian czars imitated coins of Manuel, Isaac and Alexius.
And this coin looks like one of those imitations.
The imitated coin is:
Alexius III. (1195-1203)
Billon Aspron Trachy, Constantinople
Obverse: Bust of Christ
Reverse: The emperor (or tsar) and St. Constantine standing
compare to Sear 2011-2013

Maybe it is an original Byzantine issue of Alexius though and it only looks a bit weird because of the decentering. I have to admit that for me the coins of Alexius III. and their Bulgarian imitations often are very difficult to differentiate but this coin looks a bit more like a Bulgarian than a Byzantine issue for me.

Regards,
Peter

Re: Byzanz

Verfasst: Sa 24.12.11 15:15
von gencho kitov
Vielen Dank Leodux.
Noch einige