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1 Thaler 1721 - is this real?

Verfasst: Fr 18.09.09 17:08
von Gundars
Hello!
Thanks for all great answers in previous my themes. Now I'm interested if this Thaler is real?!
What I know:
This is silver and diameter is 44 mm. Also I take some pictures.
I got this "coin" together with lot of many small value coins from modern world, so that why I have some doubt that this not real coin but some kind of copy(silver token??? :lol: ) And if this real then how much(~EUR) this cost?
I hope someone give me a little more information. :wink:
Gundars from Latvia

Verfasst: Sa 19.09.09 08:22
von Medalstrike
Hello Gundars,

this is a Austria Tirol Karl VI. Taler 1721 Hall Mint,
the diameter is right and the weight should lie at 28,1g.
If the coin is genuine, it has a value of ca. 300 €

Greetings Medalstrike

Verfasst: Sa 19.09.09 09:11
von Gundars
Thanks Medalstrike!

Verfasst: Sa 19.09.09 09:57
von klosterschueler
Hello Gundars,

if I only look on the foto, I cannot say, if this is a replica or an original coin.
Buf if it's original, it's very well struck.

Klosterschüler

PS: If you want, I will show this coin in the austrian forum, where we have several specialss for Coins from Hall, maybe the can tell you more

Verfasst: Sa 19.09.09 10:15
von Gundars
Yes that would be great klosterschueler!
I know that it's not easy to answer if this coin is replica or original from picture, but I appreciate every help from everyone. Thanks!

Verfasst: Sa 19.09.09 11:43
von klosterschueler
Hello Gundars,

it's a replica, struck by Lauer, more you can read here.
If you nee translation help, please let me know.
The tail feathers of the eagle look like an X-mas tree
:D
A real one you can see here

Yours Klosterschüler

Verfasst: Sa 19.09.09 12:03
von Gundars
Thanks klosterschueler for help, I appreciate that. My German language knowledge is very bad, so if you could give me short explanation what says rainschnarcher in his comment it's would be great! :D

Verfasst: Sa 19.09.09 12:19
von klosterschueler
OK, I do my best....
rainschnarcher hat geschrieben: This coin was issued by company Lauer. It can be identified on the curb(I don't know, if this is the right word), which looks different, if you compare it with original one from the Hall mint. About 1800 people loved to wear such coins on a silver chain. To make such a decoration available for everyone, it was issued by such companies, but it was made of less valuable material. Most talers are of Karl VI, 1721 and Maximilan III, 1603)
Always be careful, of the coin looks too good, better you have it in your hand to give a final comment.
The woth is about 1/10 of the real one.
Klosterschüler

PS: Rainschnarcher added a picture of the original curb

Verfasst: Sa 19.09.09 12:28
von Gundars
Interesting... Thanks again klosterschueler.