Determination help unknown Denar / Pfennig
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Determination help unknown Denar / Pfennig
Friendly ask for help to determinate this unknown German Denar / Pfennig !
One member of our Dutch metaldetecting Forum found this beautifull Medival coin .
We can 't exactly determinate this coin . We think it is a : Pfennig , Königliche Reichsmunzst. Aachen , Friedrich II ( 1215 - ? ) or Wilhelm von Holland ( 1247-1256)
Any info of this coin is welcome !
Thanks and greetz from The Netherlands , Pinpoint
One member of our Dutch metaldetecting Forum found this beautifull Medival coin .
We can 't exactly determinate this coin . We think it is a : Pfennig , Königliche Reichsmunzst. Aachen , Friedrich II ( 1215 - ? ) or Wilhelm von Holland ( 1247-1256)
Any info of this coin is welcome !
Thanks and greetz from The Netherlands , Pinpoint
COGITO , ERGO SUM
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Re: Determination help unknown Denar / Pfennig
Hello,
on MA-Shops, ive found this coin http://www.muenzauktion.com/rittig/item ... 01&lang=en
So i would say Aachen looks good!
Kind regards from 'Not so far to the Netherlands'
Frederik
on MA-Shops, ive found this coin http://www.muenzauktion.com/rittig/item ... 01&lang=en
So i would say Aachen looks good!
Kind regards from 'Not so far to the Netherlands'
Frederik
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Re: Determination help unknown Denar / Pfennig
Hoi Frederick , thanks for your help !usen hat geschrieben:Hello,
on MA-Shops, ive found this coin http://www.muenzauktion.com/rittig/item ... 01&lang=en
So i would say Aachen looks good!
Kind regards from 'Not so far to the Netherlands'
Frederik
We found this match on MA Shops already by ourselfs ! but anyone of these matches shows the letter E or F ,who you can see on our coin ( foto unter) .
We think it is probably de letter F from FREDERIC ( ?)
Maybe someone with the Saurmasche Münzsammlung Catalog can give us the right info .
Unfortunately there is no access in this Catalog anymore on Internet .
Thanks and greetz from The Netherlands , Pinpoint
COGITO , ERGO SUM
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Re: Determination help unknown Denar / Pfennig
Hi Pinpoint,
Aachen is right.
Those coins were struck there in the names of Friedrich II. (1215-1250), Wilhelm von Holland (1247-1256) and Richard von Cornwallis (1257-1271).
As they all look nearly the same, it's almost impossible to determine them exactly if the inscription can't be read.
Fortunately your coin shows the "FR..." of "FRIDERIC'+".
Well, there is a coin of Wilhelm that shows the name FRIDERIC, too, but then the other side should show the name "+WILLELM'REX". So those coins can be ones of Wilhelm, even if they show FRIDERIC on one side. But I think I can read the reverse inscription INP[ERATOR] and so it's a coin of emperor Friedrich II.
If the weight is about 1g or more, it is a denar.
Literature: Krumbach 57; Menadier 62
Regards,
Peter
@upuaut oder einen anderen Mod: Dieses Thema sollte ins Mittelalter verschoben werden, denn ich denke, dort passt es besser hin.
Aachen is right.
Those coins were struck there in the names of Friedrich II. (1215-1250), Wilhelm von Holland (1247-1256) and Richard von Cornwallis (1257-1271).
As they all look nearly the same, it's almost impossible to determine them exactly if the inscription can't be read.
Fortunately your coin shows the "FR..." of "FRIDERIC'+".
Well, there is a coin of Wilhelm that shows the name FRIDERIC, too, but then the other side should show the name "+WILLELM'REX". So those coins can be ones of Wilhelm, even if they show FRIDERIC on one side. But I think I can read the reverse inscription INP[ERATOR] and so it's a coin of emperor Friedrich II.
If the weight is about 1g or more, it is a denar.
Literature: Krumbach 57; Menadier 62
Regards,
Peter
@upuaut oder einen anderen Mod: Dieses Thema sollte ins Mittelalter verschoben werden, denn ich denke, dort passt es besser hin.
Zuletzt geändert von leodux am Mi 19.05.10 15:36, insgesamt 2-mal geändert.
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Re: Determination help unknown Denar / Pfennig
Thank you, Leodux, for your support,
I live near Aachen but I do not collect german coins, but at least i found a familiar one on the web hehe.
Sorry @ Pinpoint that I couldnt help you more.
Kind regards
Frederik
I live near Aachen but I do not collect german coins, but at least i found a familiar one on the web hehe.
Sorry @ Pinpoint that I couldnt help you more.
Kind regards
Frederik
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Re: Determination help unknown Denar / Pfennig
Peter & Frederik thanks for your help !!
On our Forum we have a few specialist in medival coins but they could'nt exactly determine this coin .
As you already said , they all look almost the same .
Now we know more about this beautifull medival coin !
Thanks for your support , and when we have another determination problem in the future , I ask for your expert help !
Greetz from Holland , Pinpoint
On our Forum we have a few specialist in medival coins but they could'nt exactly determine this coin .
As you already said , they all look almost the same .
Now we know more about this beautifull medival coin !
Thanks for your support , and when we have another determination problem in the future , I ask for your expert help !
Greetz from Holland , Pinpoint
COGITO , ERGO SUM
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