Unknown medieval coin . Flandern ??

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Friendly ask for help to determine this unknown coin .
We think it is a coin of Vlaanderen ( Lion in shield ) , 1/4 - 1/2 Gros ??

Diam. : 14mm / 0,23 gr. / Billion
Buchstaben im Kreuz : B / D / E / ?

Any info is welcome

Grretz from The Netherlands , Pinpoint

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Anyone ??

We have a tip that this maybe is a coin from Jülich ( Berg / Kleve)

Perhaps someone can confirm this ?

Greetz , Pinpoint

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Hello Pinpoint,
i was checking all my books about Southern-NL-Coins and only found a familiar (not same) looking coin struck in Gent.
Here is a picture of that coin I found.

Vanhoudt-Atlas der Munten van Belgie (van de kelten tot heden)-H 208
Filips de Schone(1482-1506), Groot, biljoen Gent (1489-1490) DdP 18, 42; VG-H149

If you need what the Gelder/Hoc says i can write that too, but I do not have that book at home.

Otherwise i am still looking for more Informations about this coin!
Hopefully i could help a bit.
Kind regards
Frederik

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Hoi Frederik ,

Coin specialist in Belgium checked several times Vanhoudt en Lucas .
Until now they could'nt find the right match .
Their conclusion till now is that it could be : Zuiderlijke Nederlanden ( Southern NL) , a Maaslandse imitation fot the Netherlands.
Jülich ( Berg / Cleve) is possible to .
We still searching

Thanks for your exellent help

Greetz , Pinpoint

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Hello again,
i was checking for Jülich Berg coins on the Internet, and I have to say, the design of your Shield+Lion looks very different to
the coins I found on the web.
What I found from J/B was:
1. Lion w/o shield.
2. Lion on shield w/o those wavy lines surrounding.

The most fitting one I found was the coin from Gent i showed before. Maybe a varianty?? I dont know.
When I find something, i will let you know. =)
But i wish good luck for the search, and if you find out... please tell me

Kind regards from the Melting-Monschau
Frederik

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There are imitations of this coin type attributed to Wilhelm of Jülich as count of Ravensberg 1415-1428 with different letters in the angles of the cross.