Denars of Groningen?

[Ganza]

Hello,
Please help to identify these 2 coins.
I think 1 coin is from Groningen, Bernolf bishop. But I couldn't find the variant with the reversed inscription.
Best regards,

[QVINTVS]

Hallo,

the second coin is from Groningen, Ilisch 18.3, bishop Bernolf, 1040-1054. Ilisch write, there are some different varieties.

[QVINTVS]

Dear Ganza,

it is better, if you write always the weight and the "Durchmesser". The first coin, I can not find by Groningen.

[Ganza]

Thank you for your answer!
Unfortunately, I don't have an information about the weight and diameter of these coins. I saw the information in Ilisch's book. But there is no description of variants there for Baculus type. Probably, there is a more detaled article about Groningen denars?
Most likely, The second coin is unpublished.
Best regards,

[QVINTVS]

Hallo Ganza,

Ilisch wrote an example for a variant. In the introduction of this oder the follow book wrote he, I show the types and not all variants. If someone did not find this variant, it not a sign that this is a new one. The book is to small, to show all variants.

That ist the reason, why you do not found this specific variant.

[Ganza]

Hi, QVINTVS
Actually, everything is not so simple.
The book by Ilisch has quite strange structure. For example, for Groningen 18.1 there are 11 options including very insignificant (1 letter is turned, a point in an inscription, etc.), for type 18.4 - 9 options. But Ilisch considers all of them as different types.
Many variants are taken from the book Van der Chijs. In his book many variants of Bakulus are described, including, insignificant, but there are no with the reversed inscription.
Best regards,