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Pfennig , Grafschaft Mark

Verfasst: Di 14.02.23 18:10
von pinpoint
ID help for this Pfennig , Grafschaft Mark , Engelbert II ( 1308-1328) ??
Diam.: 17mm / silver
We see on the a.v the letters : E M A , maybe from : DE MARK / DE MARhC or var.
reference nr. : Menadier 43 ??
Perhaps someone can confirm this reference or ruler with Menadier or anouther literature .
Coin found in The Netherlands in a location with a historical connection with Mark & Kleve

Regards , Pinpoint

Re: Pfennig , Grafschaft Mark

Verfasst: Do 16.02.23 17:49
von TorWil
Hello pinpoint,

I would suggest Adolf II. 1328-1347 is more fitting:

https://www.kuenker.de/de/archiv/stueck/203836

Regards

TW

Re: Pfennig , Grafschaft Mark

Verfasst: Do 16.02.23 19:34
von pinpoint
@TorWill

Thanks for your help !

On a Pfennig , Adolf II , we see on the breast of the count : vierpassförmige Rosette
At my Pfennig we see a : gesturtzte Lilie , the same as on a Pfennig of Engelbert II ( see the image of this variant )
Some numismatik specialists still working on this coin , until now no exact match .

Regards , Pinpoint

Re: Pfennig , Grafschaft Mark

Verfasst: Do 16.02.23 23:12
von pinpoint
Info

Determination in cooperation with Peter Ilisch , Numismatiker , Rimidi , J.Benders & ,
A.Cruysheer , numismatists

Pfennig , ca. 1372-1376 , Dietrich von der Mark , als Herr von Dinslaken
reference nr. Althoff 4
Legenda on the a.v : THEODORIC DE MA(RKA ) or var.

Regards , Pinpoint

Re: Pfennig , Grafschaft Mark

Verfasst: Fr 17.02.23 06:58
von TorWil
pinpoint hat geschrieben:
Do 16.02.23 19:34

On a Pfennig , Adolf II , we see on the breast of the count : vierpassförmige Rosette
At my Pfennig we see a : gesturtzte Lilie , the same as on a Pfennig of Engelbert II ( see the image of this variant )
Some numismatik specialists still working on this coin , until now no exact match .
Hello pinpoint thank you for the info.

In good franconian english, 'again what learned'.

Best wishes

TW