Schaukasten: Deutsches Kaiserreich

[klaupo]

... Motiv " Kaiser Wilhelm and his wife"

Hier ist etwas richtigzustellen: Dargestellt ist hinter dem Kaiser nicht die Kaiserin Auguste Viktoria, sondern der Vorfahr des Kaisers (der auch auf der Münze genannt wird) Friedrich (III) I., der 1701 die Königswürde erlangte. Das Münzbild von 1691 zeigt ihn noch als Kurfürst, reicht aber zum Vergleich.

Gruß klaupo

[Mynter]

Das war ein Jokus. Ich hatte das tatsaechlich mal in einer fremdlaendischen Auktionsbeschreibung gelesen ( Fachhandel, nicht Ebay ). Nur The Freudenstadt Mint ist besser.

[villa66]

This exchange over the 1901a Prussian commemorative is hilarious, but I have to admit to being a moron to explain why. In my defense, the Kaiser's headgear is...attention-getting. So I never looked much beyond it except to note in passing that Wilhelm had one homely wife.

But I think it was when I learned (here on the forum) about the 30-year moratorium on commemoratives, and was taking a look at the occasion that was noteworthy enough to restart the coining of commemoratives, that I saw the jugate busts were not a picture of the Kaiser and Kaiserin of the then here and now--as I had always thought--but instead were of the King then and the King now.

I was mortified, as you all can imagine, especially since I'd talked about this coin in terms of the "Kaiser and Kaiserin" not long before, in the Imperator/Berengaria thread.

I hustled to correct my mistake--whatever time is recorded for the alteration is only minutes after I figured it out.

Then I put it away, along with the thought that the good people on the Numismatikforum were far too well-bred to...rub my nose in it.

v.

[Mynter]

O dear, what have I done. I never ment to make fun on others expenses. I read about " The Wife " in an auction descripton and simply thought it was funny. A little misunderstanding, causing a mild laugh and nothing more. Just the same as when Stacks some years ago offered a Hannover- struck 10 - mark ( mintmark B ) as " struck in Bayreuth ". The idea of a prussian coin minted in Bavaria is rather funny, all the time prussians and bavarians beeing like cats and dogs. But I did not think of Stacks as morons. Wagnerians, perhaps?

[villa66]

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[villa66]

King Otto of Bavaria was…unwell. But Gilson Willets, in his turn-of-the-century book Rulers Of The World at Home, was more plain-spoken: “Bavaria is of especial interest because of the fact that its present ruler, King Otto, like his predecessor, King Ludwig, is insane.”

The man Willets called the “real ruler of Bavaria,” Prince-Regent Luitpold, is pictured on this 1911d 3-mark piece celebrating his 90th birthday.

About a decade earlier, Rulers Of The World at Home had relayed the following from Ladies’ Home Journal: “If you take a promenade through the principal streets of Munich, about eight o’clock in the morning, you will be sure to meet a phaeton drawn by a pair of handsome bays. Behind the driver is seated a general with a gray beard. This gentleman, so careless of display, is Prince {Luitpold] of Bavaria, who because of the suicide of King [Ludwig] II, and the insanity of Prince Otto, now King, is at present Regent of the Kingdom of Bavaria.”

Luitpold died the next year of bronchitis, just in time. He had seen his image coined in silver and the launch of a battleship named after him. It was 1912 and things had not yet gone all wrong.

This coin, somehow, looks like it might still inhabit that time.

v.

[Mynter]

Thank you, villa. The Luitpold- coins are remarkable in more than one way. Not only are they the only imperial coins to show a ruler who was not the official head of state, the Luitpold- coins also is the only commemomorative-seria consisting of three coins. I like them a lot. Easy to get and allways in nice quality.

[Mynter]

I carry on with a 3- mark of poor King Otto :

[Mynter]

And a 3- mark of Ludwig III, the last bavarian king. Ludwig was a popular man, known as " the diary- farmer ". He was highly interested in agricultural questions. liked to take a walk through the streets of Munich and was often seen sitting in a Biergarten enjoing a nice Maas togehther with common people.

[Firenze]

Hallo Mynter,

wirklich prächtige Stücke zeigst du hier. Da läuft einem das Wasser im Mund zusammen...

Viele Grüße aus der Hauptstadt

[Mynter]

Hallo Mynter,

wirklich prächtige Stücke zeigst du hier. Da läuft einem das Wasser im Mund zusammen...

Viele Grüße aus der Hauptstadt

Merci. Die bayrischen Reichsmünzen haben was. Hier das Fünfmarkstück für Ludwig III. Zusätzlich ein zeitgenössischer Bericht aus Alexander Kummers Sammlerzeitschrift.

[Mynter]

Zwei dieser Fünfmarkstücke hätte die Dienstmagd Martha Eschler 1907 im Monat erhalten :
https://www.zdf.de/dokumentation/terra- ... t-102.html

[villa66]

I have no 1907 heavy-weights, so I'll break Martha Eschler's monthly wage of 10 marks into a per-day 33-pfennigs....

[villa66]

Which, with Ms. Eschler's 16-hour days, works out--with a few stray pfennigs added in here and there--to an hourly wage of just over 2-pfennigs....

(And though not up to "Showcase" standards, this random Imperial 2-pfennig from the duplicate box seems to fit the occasion.)

v.

[Mynter]

Der Schaukasten verdient eine Wiederbelebung.Diese Münzen wurden 1905 in Berlin für Preussen geprägt :