Pfennig , Grafschaft Mark

[pinpoint]

ID help for this Pfennig , Grafschaft Mark , Engelbert II ( 1308-1328) ??
Diam.: 17mm / silver
We see on the a.v the letters : E M A , maybe from : DE MARK / DE MARhC or var.
reference nr. : Menadier 43 ??
Perhaps someone can confirm this reference or ruler with Menadier or anouther literature .
Coin found in The Netherlands in a location with a historical connection with Mark & Kleve

Regards , Pinpoint

[TorWil]

Hello pinpoint,

I would suggest Adolf II. 1328-1347 is more fitting:

https://www.kuenker.de/de/archiv/stueck/203836

Regards

TW

[pinpoint]

@TorWill

Thanks for your help !

On a Pfennig , Adolf II , we see on the breast of the count : vierpassförmige Rosette
At my Pfennig we see a : gesturtzte Lilie , the same as on a Pfennig of Engelbert II ( see the image of this variant )
Some numismatik specialists still working on this coin , until now no exact match .

Regards , Pinpoint

[pinpoint]

Info

Determination in cooperation with Peter Ilisch , Numismatiker , Rimidi , J.Benders & ,
A.Cruysheer , numismatists

Pfennig , ca. 1372-1376 , Dietrich von der Mark , als Herr von Dinslaken
reference nr. Althoff 4
Legenda on the a.v : THEODORIC DE MA(RKA ) or var.

Regards , Pinpoint

[TorWil]

On a Pfennig , Adolf II , we see on the breast of the count : vierpassförmige Rosette
At my Pfennig we see a : gesturtzte Lilie , the same as on a Pfennig of Engelbert II ( see the image of this variant )
Some numismatik specialists still working on this coin , until now no exact match .

Hello pinpoint thank you for the info.

In good franconian english, 'again what learned'.

Best wishes

TW