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old family coins 4

Beitrag von francisco59 » Do 26.08.10 16:51

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Five more:

1749, 0.7 gm, 16mm

1749, 2.1 gm, 21 mm

???5, 0.6 gm, 16mm

undated, 0.4 gm, 15mm

undated, 0.5 gm, 16mm


These coins have been sitting in a box for over a hundred years, without any identification.

Thank you again for your help.

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Beitrag von leodux » Do 26.08.10 17:36

Hi,
the first one is a 1 Groten 1749 from the city of Bremen.
And the 4th coin is a 1 Schilling from the city of Lübeck.

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Beitrag von ischbierra » Do 26.08.10 19:38

Hallo,
Nr 5 is Konstanz, City, 1 Kreuzer, 17th cent.

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Beitrag von leodux » Do 26.08.10 20:12

Hi,
the 3rd coin is from the Bishopric Würzburg. Most probably a Shilling.
The year on the side that shows Saint Kilian cannot be read properly, but it looks like 1670. Then the Bishop is Johann Philipp von Schönborn (1642-1673). The arms on the reverse would match to this bishop, too.

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Beitrag von Gerhard Schön » Fr 27.08.10 21:12

Coin #2 with the FGC (Franz Georg Churfürst, Elector) monogram is a copper 2 Pfennig from Trier of the 1748-1750 period. Reverse says II / PFENNING / year / D.F. (Damian Fritsch, mintmaster) [Trier S#55]

Coin #4 is an undated billon 1 Kreuzer from the city of Ulm. This type has been minted between 1694 and 1759 [Ulm S#1]
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Beitrag von leodux » Fr 27.08.10 22:31

Gerhard Schön hat geschrieben:Coin #4 is an undated billon 1 Kreuzer from the city of Ulm. This type has been minted between 1694 and 1759 [Ulm S#1]
Yes, Gerhard is right and I was wrong. I confused the similar arms of Ulm and Lübeck and of course it's Ulm and not Lübeck as I wrote. :oops:

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Beitrag von francisco59 » Sa 28.08.10 18:19

Now that I know to look under Ulm, my Standard Catalog of German Coins (Krause 1998) seems to describe #4 as "Siege Coinage" from 1704 (but undated). But there is no picture and I am not sure.

In any event, thank you again for your help. I have now identified 116 of the 125 coins I inherited. I am learning a little about old Germany in the process.

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Beitrag von Gerhard Schön » So 29.08.10 08:04

francisco59 hat geschrieben:My Standard Catalog of German Coins (Krause 1998) seems to describe #4 as "Siege Coinage" from 1704 (but undated).
Ulm was not besieged in 1704, so there is no "siege coinage". The territory of the imperial city was in fact occupied by Bavarian and French troops from 1702 to 1704, and during that time, 1703 dated 4 and 2 Kreuzer (and likely also some undated 1 Kreuzer) coins have been struck. The Kreuzer pieces were of the usual type, and no one has found out so far how to tell them apart from those minted in 1700 or until 1759. Eventually in 1704, the Marquis of Blainville requested a large sum of money from the citizens of Ulm, who accordingly produced contribution coins (1 Silver Gulden as well as 6 and 1 Gold Gulden). See S#1-5 in the Deutscher Münzkatalog 18. Jahrhundert, 4th edition.
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