Connected pairs; design inspiration.

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Connected pairs; design inspiration.

Beitrag von villa66 » Do 30.05.13 08:03

This 1953 British florin was coined in Elizabeth’s coronation year…
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Re: Connected pairs; design inspiration.

Beitrag von villa66 » Do 30.05.13 08:07

…and the reverse of Elizabeth’s florin served as a model for the reverse design of this, Japan’s new 1957 (Showa 32) 100-yen coin.

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Re: Connected pairs; design inspiration.

Beitrag von KarlAntonMartini » Do 30.05.13 10:03

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Re: Connected pairs; design inspiration.

Beitrag von villa66 » Fr 01.11.13 04:22

As above, Japan’s silver 100-yen debuted in 1957 with a design that was modeled (in part) on the contemporary British florin:
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Re: Connected pairs; design inspiration.

Beitrag von villa66 » Fr 01.11.13 04:24

The “Phoenix” 100-yen of 1957-8 was widely considered to be too martial in appearance, however—and because it was still a live issue that close to the end of the war—the design was replaced with a new, more peaceful-appearing coin in 1959, the “Rice” 100-yen.

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Re: Connected pairs; design inspiration.

Beitrag von shanxi » Fr 01.11.13 09:34

It should be mentioned that also the reverse design of the japanese 100 Yen Phoenix coin has precursors in japan, older than the Elisabeth issue.

examples:

for the central part:
http://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces15187.html
1897-1912

or for the ornamental part, although not a flower pattern, not to far away:
http://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces13956.html
or the japanese puppet state coin:
http://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces22540.html

so if this coins design was inspired by the Elisabeth coin, it might have been because the model looks so japanese. :)

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Re: Connected pairs; design inspiration.

Beitrag von villa66 » So 03.11.13 03:39

I appreciate your comment, and the additional connections you provided. Danke! Gave me something new to consider.

I’ve always let this coin off easy, thinking that most of its problem was a cross-cultural misreading of its Phoenix device, in much of the West an allegory for rebirth, return, resurrection—all somewhat touchy assertions for a Japan so early into the postwar.

But then you rightly point out the Sunburst at the center of the 1957-58 100-yen’s “British florin reverse.” And looking at it fresh, suddenly I’m thinking “Sunburst—emblematic of the Emperor’s divinity?” Yikes! No wonder this coin had problems.

I was less convinced with your “ornamental” precursor as exemplified by the 1933-38 5-sen piece; for me the 1933-38 5-sen design wasn’t ornamental so much as is was purposefully symbolic, with a modern take—the (stylized) 8-lobed frame makes the center-hole into the “Sacred Mirror.”

But then I took a closer look at the 100-yen and its cherry blossom wreath: I’ll be darned if you can’t see an 8-lobed surround that can easily be seen as the frame of the “Sacred Mirror.” The Sun Goddess and the Emperor’s divinity yet again? Again, yikes!

All this, and only a bare decade since the Emperor was widely (although perhaps not correctly) understood to have renounced his divinity? Smacks of Revisionism with a capital R!

It may be the story of the Japanese 1957-58 100-yen having been inspired by the contemporary British florin was more cover story than anything else, invented and propagated to either disguise an effort to (symbolically) restate the imperative for Emperor-worship, or else—more charitably—design elements of Japanese coinage past were incompetently fitted into a borrowed British template.

Fun stuff, speculating….

But truly, thanks for cluing me into how outrageous the ’57-8 100-yen really was. No wonder it had to go.

:D v.

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