Emden Stadt , 6 Stüber ?

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Emden Stadt , 6 Stüber ?

Beitrag von pinpoint » So 24.02.13 22:33

Hello ,

Determination help for this coin of Emden Stadt , on name of Leopold I
Diam. 28 mm / 3,74 gr. / Silver
Schilling ( 6 Stüber) ?? /or 1/3 Thaler ??
ref.nr : Knyphausen 6298 or another ref. ??
All info is welcome !

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Re: Emden Stadt , 6 Stüber ?

Beitrag von Ruford » Mo 25.02.13 08:30

I think I have an idea - give me just some time - I need to find an old catalogue and to do my normal work ;)

Letters are:

a) LEOPOLD: DG : ROMAN : IMP : SEM : AV
b) DA PACEM : DOMINE

right?

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Re: Emden Stadt , 6 Stüber ?

Beitrag von pinpoint » Mo 25.02.13 18:02

Hello Ruford ,

Legenda is :

av. : DA PACEM DOMINE
rev. : LEOP I DG ROM IMP SEM AV

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Re: Emden Stadt , 6 Stüber ?

Beitrag von Ruford » Di 26.02.13 11:24

I have to say sorry, I couldn't really find what I was looking for - but the problem is, that there are a lot of varieties out for Emden in that time - and I have no access to the needed literature and could't find the old catalogue. That you are totally correct with Emden is visible in this design which is exactly the same:
1/3 Taler Emden

although the weight is not correct for 1/3 Thaler, which would mean round about 9 gr - 6 Stüber instead would fit perfect. For this you mentioned Knyphausen 6298 which is out there also in a strong variety - which you can see

here
here
and here (K-6292, 9652)

so you see that we are all together quite close - and I guess that we can assume, that it is really a "6 Stüber Emden" w/o year - but minted in the years between 1680 and 1700.

Although most museums don't like it - you could ask at the Landesmuseum Emden which contains the biggest coin collection of this region for a better determination.

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Re: Emden Stadt , 6 Stüber ?

Beitrag von pinpoint » Di 26.02.13 20:00

Hello Ruford ,

Thanks for your exellent and specifided explanation!
We had the same problem to find the right match of this coin ,
there are so mutch variations and ref.nrs.
With your explanation about the weights of the different denominations we can assume that this is a Schilling ( 6 Stüber)

Kind regards from The Netherlands , Pinpoint
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