Two Caesars

[stealth]

Dear Experts,

I can't identify these coins with the help of the internet. I think both are Julius Caesar's minting but under which catalogue number?
A: Ag. 18 mm. Woman's head right/peasant with yoke of oxen plowing right IMP.CAESA...
B: Ag. 16 mm. Elephant right (with a seal above, with a ligature: MVES.) below there is an unreadable text/caduceus CBIENV

Thank you for the help.
stealth

[Zwerg]

The second one is no problem

http://www.coinarchives.com/a/lotviewer ... 4&Lot=1824

But the first one puzzles me.
The countermark is IMP VESP, used by the troups of Titus during the war in Iudaea, mostly found on denarii of the Roman Republic.

I have no idea regarding the undertype

Where does the coin come from?

Regards
Dwarf

[Peter43]

Hi stealth!

For the coin with the ploughing oxes look at http://www.coinarchives.com/a/results.p ... and+caesar

If I see a coin with an elephant and a caduceus I must think on coins of Baktria. But on ConArchives I find only coins with an elephant's head.

Best regards

[divus]

Hi,
to my opinion the first one looks like an ancient imitation, combining an obverse of Caesar with a reverse of M. Plaetorius Cestianus with blundered legends. Interesting coin!

kind regards

[stealth]

Hi,

Thanks for the fast replies.
So the coin above is not published in coin catalogues. It's almost for sure that is Roman because I received it together with other Republican coins from 1 BC.

Regards,
stealth

[Pscipio]

It is an imitation, so it can not be found in any reference book as these only include official coins. Still an interesting coin, though.

Lars