Unbestimmter Denar

[TorWil]

Hallo,

Kann mir bitte jemand bei diesem Denar weiterhelfen. Ich denke irgendwann 13-14 Jhd.
Ich habe leider noch nichts vergleichbares gefunden.

VS: Bischoffstab und Schlüssel?
RS: Kreuz (Jerusalem Kreuz?)

Silber, 0,59 Gramm, 17,4 mm

Für jede Hilfe bin ich dankbar.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

TorWil

[TorWil]

Hallo,

Hat niemand eine Idee, wo ich da weitersuchen könnte?

Frankreich?
Niederlande?
Italien?
Spanien?
???

Jeder Kommentar ist erwünscht.

Gruß

Torsten

[pinpoint]

I posted this coin already on a Dutch forum for determination help .Until now no match.
I try It in Belgium , maybe there more succes.

Greetz from The Netherlands , Pinpoint

[TorWil]

Hello pinpoint,

Thanks for your help, I am very curious about this coin.
I hope I will get some info about it.

Greets from Franconia

TorWil

[pinpoint]

I have seen this coin before but can't remember on which forum.
I found It a interesting coin therfore I posted It on this Dutch forum.
In my opinion there must be a relation to a ecclesiastical institution , Bistum / Erzbistum ??
When there is new info I let you know .

Greetz , Pinpoint

[TorWil]

I had this coin some month ago in one of my threads together with more coins (this was a bad idea to bundle coins). So I decided to come again with it in a separate thread.
The coin has two interesting images, first the crook and the key? with two letters 'I' which leads to a bishopric or similar ruler.
The second image has a cross with small crosses? (Jerusalem cross?) which I have seen for cyprus coins e.g..
But the style of the coin is more dutch to french. I searched a lot the net, but I never have seen something thats more or less identical.

Hopefully someone can lift the secrets of this coin.

Regards

Torsten

[pinpoint]

We have a match !
Determination help by Rimidi from http://www.detectorvrienden-vlaanderen.be

Penning , Christoffer I ( 1252-1259) , Roskilde mint , Denmark
Minted under biskopper Jakob Erlandsen ( 1249-1254) or Peter Bang ( 1254-1277)
Ref.nr.: Mansfeld - Bullner # 78
Rimidi ask for permission for placing your coin in his virtuel vitrine !

Kind regards , Pinpoint

[TorWil]

Hello Pinpoint,

Thank you and Rimidi for the great help.
Rimidi has the permission to use the pictures, no problem.
A forum lives with the share of knowledge and in my opinion pictures are as well knowledge and I kindly share them.

Hurray, another coin identified. I never had a look to the north for identifying this coin.

Best regards

Torsten

[pinpoint]

Wir schaffen das !

Internationale zusammenarbeid.
I let Rimidi know !

Greetz , Pinpoint

[TorWil]

Hallo,

Für alle die es interessiert den Mansfeld-Bullner gibt es auch online:

https://www.danskmoent.dk/pdf/mb.pdf

Jetzt wäre noch schön herauszufinden wie häufig/selten die Münze ist. Falls ich irgendwo noch ein Referenz finde werde ich sie mit in den Thread setzen.

Gruß

TorWil

[KarlAntonMartini]

Jetzt hatte ich grad den Rentzmann durchgegangen, danach gibt es die Kombination "bewinkeltes Krückenkreuz" und Bischofsstab/Schlüssel nur für Dänemark und das alte Bistum Meißen. Aber inzwischen hat sich das ja geklärt. Immer wieder spannend solche Fragen. Grüße, KarlAntonMartini